Ten days ago i had embolism with stent carried out to treat my 16mm aneurysm. the operation lasted 4 hours and I received big amount of radio energy during it. Afterwards I was told that most likely I will lose my hair. The operation left me with numbness at the left side of my head, my ear is completely without feeling. No coil was used because my aneurysm has thrombosis on the top and there was fear of the coil piercing through it. My doctor insists that the numbness has nothing to do with the embolism because he operated me from the right side (going through right groin and carotid artery). Maybe it is symptom from radio energy? Has anybody tried acupuncture to help the feeling come back?
Su...welcome...wish we could do more in our welcomes...
RE: acupuncture...it was my acupuncturist who suggested (required?) I have a neuro f/u before she would treat a specific area of my skull...
As for your numbness...the only things that come to mind/thought....are the old terms: right brain / left body; and left brain / right body... then the "access" thru the arteries to reach the aneurysm...
Were you given the name of the artery and its segment of the aneurysm location?
Did he cover the angio images with you?
If not, you can search somewhat online:... artery segment name anatomy and physiology
if that has been given to you...
The access in the groin, whether left or right, begins into the (L or R) femoral artery and at some point enter the abdominal aorta, on to the descending thoracic aorta and thoracic aorta on into the ascending aorta and the aortic arch...where the carotids left and Right) branch from...however, there is variance on the Rt and Lt sides of the arch.
You may want to search online: carotid artery anatomy and physiology...
Some basics: Left side of aorta arch: left subclavian and left common carotid each off the arch...
Left vertebral branches off the Left subclavian; and the left internal mammary artery does
Right Side: brachiocephalic (aka innominate) is the only direct branch off the aorta arch;
Right Common Carotid branches off the Brachio... then
Right vertebral branches toward the top to the brain
Rt internal mammary to the lower side...
Right subclavian then forms off the Brachio just after the last two branches; (in reverse, the Brachio becomes the Rt subclavian...)
I hope this may help you in your research ...for questions to ask your doctor...
As for your 4 hours...did that include the initial diagnostics...or just the stent implant?
Do you know if you had more than one stent?
You may want to peruse: http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/C/Carotid.html
or just search: Carotid artery anatomy
Su, I have no expertise...have done much research...I have also been drawn to the tortuous turns of these cerebral arteries from their branching entry...to various tortuous turns on particular arteries...
Please keep us updated...
Thank you patioplans for your reply. Please forgive me any mistakes I make as a non native English speaker. Main reason I tried to find forum with other aneurysm patients was to get more information. I am of Finnish origin (suomalainen=finnish) living in Greece and my operation was carried out here. Already before the operation I did learn from the internet a lot about the possible consequences. Maybe my background of alternative medicine and my belief in energy healing etc gave my doctor some kind of freedom not to explain things as clearly as I would have wanted. I do know the rule right to left and adverse and because of knowing it I was surprised when he keep's insisting that numbness has nothing to do with the operation he performed. Just yesterday I spoke with his office and will finally get the findings and the disc home. I am happy being in this condition after the operation and don't want to make a fuss about small symptoms but I still would like the complete information about everything that happened and still could happen. 4 hours was for the stent implant. I had DSA carried out two weeks before the operation so they already had a clear idea... My mother had aneurysm and as I am mother of two myself I am worried about my children also. I will let you know as soon as I have the results with me.
patioplans said:
Su...welcome...wish we could do more in our welcomes...
RE: acupuncture...it was my acupuncturist who suggested (required?) I have a neuro f/u before she would treat a specific area of my skull...
As for your numbness...the only things that come to mind/thought....are the old terms: right brain / left body; and left brain / right body... then the "access" thru the arteries to reach the aneurysm...
Were you given the name of the artery and its segment of the aneurysm location?
Did he cover the angio images with you?
If not, you can search somewhat online:... artery segment name anatomy and physiology
if that has been given to you...
The access in the groin, whether left or right, begins into the (L or R) femoral artery and at some point enter the abdominal aorta, on to the descending thoracic aorta and thoracic aorta on into the ascending aorta and the aortic arch...where the carotids left and Right) branch from...however, there is variance on the Rt and Lt sides of the arch.
You may want to search online: carotid artery anatomy and physiology...
Some basics: Left side of aorta arch: left subclavian and left common carotid each off the arch...
Left vertebral branches off the Left subclavian; and the left internal mammary artery does
Right Side: brachiocephalic (aka innominate) is the only direct branch off the aorta arch;
Right Common Carotid branches off the Brachio... then
Right vertebral branches toward the top to the brain
Rt internal mammary to the lower side...
Right subclavian then forms off the Brachio just after the last two branches; (in reverse, the Brachio becomes the Rt subclavian...)
I hope this may help you in your research ...for questions to ask your doctor...
As for your 4 hours...did that include the initial diagnostics...or just the stent implant?
Do you know if you had more than one stent?
You may want to peruse: http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/C/Carotid.html
or just search: Carotid artery anatomy
Su, I have no expertise...have done much research...I have also been drawn to the tortuous turns of these cerebral arteries from their branching entry...to various tortuous turns on particular arteries...
Please keep us updated...
Su...The cranial nerves are wrapped around the brain stem and, some with branches off them and all so close to one another...then the peripheral (body) nerves...Your doc should be able to advise you/refer you to a doctor who would specialize in that field of your numbness...
You may want to research the cranial nerves; particularly the trigeminal (CN V)...it has three branches; the ophthalmic, the maxillary and the mandibular...For various reasons, (time is one of them) I can remember these branches due to my right eye (particularly right vs left) and my jaw/teeth...
As for the acupuncturist...it would certainly be my choice...but each person has to have their comfort level in anything they do...even in seeing a doctor...
My only strong suggestion...is you advise any acupuncturist of your status...for his/her decision, too... I know my acupuncturist would not touch a tender spot on my left skull bone area until a neuro-doc addressed from internally...the status of pressure on the skull bone...
Wishes and prayers for each step in your recovery...also, you likely already know, the Group of Pipeline ... and, please keep us updated here, too...
My P.S....as I noted below...the Rt Common Carotid branches off the brachio...typically, from more data, noted it was/is the Rt Common Carotid branches off the Rt subclavian...(vs Brachio)...
There is no diff in design/development of the brachio extending into the subclavian... just the terminology...of that tiny space where the Rt Common Carotid branches off...
patioplans said:
Su...welcome...wish we could do more in our welcomes...
RE: acupuncture...it was my acupuncturist who suggested (required?) I have a neuro f/u before she would treat a specific area of my skull...
As for your numbness...the only things that come to mind/thought....are the old terms: right brain / left body; and left brain / right body... then the "access" thru the arteries to reach the aneurysm...
Were you given the name of the artery and its segment of the aneurysm location?
Did he cover the angio images with you?
If not, you can search somewhat online:... artery segment name anatomy and physiology
if that has been given to you...
The access in the groin, whether left or right, begins into the (L or R) femoral artery and at some point enter the abdominal aorta, on to the descending thoracic aorta and thoracic aorta on into the ascending aorta and the aortic arch...where the carotids left and Right) branch from...however, there is variance on the Rt and Lt sides of the arch.
You may want to search online: carotid artery anatomy and physiology...
Some basics: Left side of aorta arch: left subclavian and left common carotid each off the arch...
Left vertebral branches off the Left subclavian; and the left internal mammary artery does
Right Side: brachiocephalic (aka innominate) is the only direct branch off the aorta arch;
Right Common Carotid branches off the Brachio... then
Right vertebral branches toward the top to the brain
Rt internal mammary to the lower side...
Right subclavian then forms off the Brachio just after the last two branches; (in reverse, the Brachio becomes the Rt subclavian...)
I hope this may help you in your research ...for questions to ask your doctor...
As for your 4 hours...did that include the initial diagnostics...or just the stent implant?
Do you know if you had more than one stent?
You may want to peruse: http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/C/Carotid.html
or just search: Carotid artery anatomy
Su, I have no expertise...have done much research...I have also been drawn to the tortuous turns of these cerebral arteries from their branching entry...to various tortuous turns on particular arteries...
Please keep us updated...
patioplans said:
My P.S....as I noted below...the Rt Common Carotid branches off the brachio...typically, from more data, noted it was/is the Rt Common Carotid branches off the Rt subclavian...(vs Brachio)...
There is no diff in design/development of the brachio extending into the subclavian... just the terminology...of that tiny space where the Rt Common Carotid branches off...
patioplans said:Su...welcome...wish we could do more in our welcomes...
RE: acupuncture...it was my acupuncturist who suggested (required?) I have a neuro f/u before she would treat a specific area of my skull...
As for your numbness...the only things that come to mind/thought....are the old terms: right brain / left body; and left brain / right body... then the "access" thru the arteries to reach the aneurysm...
Were you given the name of the artery and its segment of the aneurysm location?
Did he cover the angio images with you?
If not, you can search somewhat online:... artery segment name anatomy and physiology
if that has been given to you...
The access in the groin, whether left or right, begins into the (L or R) femoral artery and at some point enter the abdominal aorta, on to the descending thoracic aorta and thoracic aorta on into the ascending aorta and the aortic arch...where the carotids left and Right) branch from...however, there is variance on the Rt and Lt sides of the arch.
You may want to search online: carotid artery anatomy and physiology...
Some basics: Left side of aorta arch: left subclavian and left common carotid each off the arch...
Left vertebral branches off the Left subclavian; and the left internal mammary artery does
Right Side: brachiocephalic (aka innominate) is the only direct branch off the aorta arch;
Right Common Carotid branches off the Brachio... then
Right vertebral branches toward the top to the brain
Rt internal mammary to the lower side...
Right subclavian then forms off the Brachio just after the last two branches; (in reverse, the Brachio becomes the Rt subclavian...)
I hope this may help you in your research ...for questions to ask your doctor...
As for your 4 hours...did that include the initial diagnostics...or just the stent implant?
Do you know if you had more than one stent?
You may want to peruse: http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/C/Carotid.html
or just search: Carotid artery anatomy
Su, I have no expertise...have done much research...I have also been drawn to the tortuous turns of these cerebral arteries from their branching entry...to various tortuous turns on particular arteries...
Please keep us updated...
I was not aware of The group of pipeline. Where can I find you?
Su...
In viewing this main page...it notes "blogs" and "Groups" ... tap the Groups...then find the Pipeline..
Those Groups go thru the next step in "accepting" their new members...
Your comment on the..."right groin / carotid artery"... I had responded on the aortic arch (at/by the heart) and the branching on up the neck /spine to the brain...
So will do more from the groins (Rt and Lt) later...I am sooo slow at spatially comprehending...
Wishing you best...first in finding "Pipeline"...
suomalainen said:
patioplans said:My P.S....as I noted below...the Rt Common Carotid branches off the brachio...typically, from more data, noted it was/is the Rt Common Carotid branches off the Rt subclavian...(vs Brachio)...
There is no diff in design/development of the brachio extending into the subclavian... just the terminology...of that tiny space where the Rt Common Carotid branches off...
patioplans said:Su...welcome...wish we could do more in our welcomes...
RE: acupuncture...it was my acupuncturist who suggested (required?) I have a neuro f/u before she would treat a specific area of my skull...
As for your numbness...the only things that come to mind/thought....are the old terms: right brain / left body; and left brain / right body... then the "access" thru the arteries to reach the aneurysm...
Were you given the name of the artery and its segment of the aneurysm location?
Did he cover the angio images with you?
If not, you can search somewhat online:... artery segment name anatomy and physiology
if that has been given to you...
The access in the groin, whether left or right, begins into the (L or R) femoral artery and at some point enter the abdominal aorta, on to the descending thoracic aorta and thoracic aorta on into the ascending aorta and the aortic arch...where the carotids left and Right) branch from...however, there is variance on the Rt and Lt sides of the arch.
You may want to search online: carotid artery anatomy and physiology...
Some basics: Left side of aorta arch: left subclavian and left common carotid each off the arch...
Left vertebral branches off the Left subclavian; and the left internal mammary artery does
Right Side: brachiocephalic (aka innominate) is the only direct branch off the aorta arch;
Right Common Carotid branches off the Brachio... then
Right vertebral branches toward the top to the brain
Rt internal mammary to the lower side...
Right subclavian then forms off the Brachio just after the last two branches; (in reverse, the Brachio becomes the Rt subclavian...)
I hope this may help you in your research ...for questions to ask your doctor...
As for your 4 hours...did that include the initial diagnostics...or just the stent implant?
Do you know if you had more than one stent?
You may want to peruse: http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/C/Carotid.html
or just search: Carotid artery anatomy
Su, I have no expertise...have done much research...I have also been drawn to the tortuous turns of these cerebral arteries from their branching entry...to various tortuous turns on particular arteries...
Please keep us updated...
I was not aware of The group of pipeline. Where can I find you?