1yr Post Op Craniotomy for unrupture aneurysm

My memory is also an on again, off again thing. I find when I'm tired, everything is 10X worse. Unfortunately, I'm tired a lot still. :-( Today, I feel sooooo fatigued and had a few dizzy spells. Haven't done anything to speak of other than a few dishes. The rest will just have to wait. This part of recovery has been really difficult for me though, I'm not one to 'take it easy' and I'm a go getter. That's just not who I am anymore; at least right now.

I can certainly understand and see how you could not return to your occupation with your deficts. I can only imagine how frustrated you must feel. I wonder some times if we'll ever be the same ya know? I tend to think, ok, I survived this thing, I beat it! Why am I not progressing faster?? Why am I still feeling this way??? Do you ever find yourself thinking you're crazy? I know that you are much further along than I am in this journey so if you dont feel like that now, did you feel this way at some point? I need to know and talk to someone that can relate and identify with what I'm going through now. I'm sure you do as well Sandra. I'll take your advice though about family doctor. Unfortunately , I just fired mine. Pulled some strings and I now have a new one but dont see her until April 7th. Finding family dr's here in Canada are very difficult. None of them are accepting new patients.

Hi Tina, same artery, unruptured. I’m two years post-op and recovery isn’t finished. Do remember those first weeks home, though. I went for walks with hubby about the same time post op. Short just as you did. That would cause a 4-hour deep sleep. And, yes, I slept about 14 hours each night. For me, this isn’t want to sleep as in avoidance or boredom. It’s have to sleep as in fall asleep while eating dinner. I’ve decided not to fight it because my body must be telling me I need to sleep. My surgeon says keep working at it. Now, I’m up to one major thing in the morning, lunch and a five minute workout, nap, another event such as grocery shopping and dinner, rest. That’s a typical day for managing fatigue. Your experience will be your experience. I’ve offered mine so you can imagine what a recovery is like. Imagine the best. Truly, I feel that is the key to progress.

HI Robin, I am so glad you posted your comments as I am nearly 12mths post op & I was beginning to feel ABNORMAL!!! So I can see I may also still have a long way to go. It is like a work in progress!! It is an individual thing & the main thing is we are here to talk to each other about it. Hope you continue to improve. Regards Sandra

Hi Robin, thank you for your comments. Your aneurysm was on the Middle Cerebral Artery? Good to know, well, lol you know what I mean. Just glad to know someone similiar. :-)

I was sleeping between 12-14 hrs per night but now I seem to have problems sleeping at all. Im sure this isn't helping my recovery either. Soon, hopefully I'll get some help with that.

Wow, 2 yrs post op, same procedure, same artery. I've been told that I've been doing too much too soon and judging by the way that I feel (especially today) they could be right. I just wish I knew what was 'normal'. Perhaps we're all different with our recoveries?

Do you work at all Robin? Did you work and not return or? Sorry for all the questions...

Thank you again for your comments, I really appreciate hearing from people that have been in the same place. :-)

Tina

Hi Tina, I don’t mind the questions at all.

I do work. I’m a writer. I did not return to work until almost a year afterward. Folks think writing fiction just happens. That is not the case. Much effort is put in ahead of time and requires significant energy. I have one friend who says he actually sweats while writing! Energy was the last thing I had to give to such. Cooking and wash and such took precedent.

Sleeping was necessary as well. 12-14 hours just as you said. Then the sleeping switched as yours did. Couldn’t sleep so I exercised relentlessly. That ended up in too much, too soon, too. :slight_smile:

Here’s where I am now: 6 small meals a day; three periods of exercise of ten minutes; two major activities; a nap in-between the major activities.

Hyper-scheduled, I’d say, but it seems to work–fewer crashes where I have to sleep for hours, less irritated at small things, more energy and more able to enjoy the things I do do. It’s kinda like how you manage a toddler. I feel more in balance. And, I’ve been given permission to increase the activity when I think I can handle it without cratering.

You know, I believe it’s our curiosity about each others experiences that help us learn about how to handle our situations better.

Keep asking.
Robin

Hi Tina, I was interrupted during the post and don’t know what happened to it. Please ask questions. The exchanges give us ideas to cope or to improve rehab, etc.

I do work. I’m a writer.

Craniotomies have various effects as you know. So after the surgery I spent almost a year regaining spacial relations, some language skills, just plain old energy to do more than watch TV. I overdid, at first, too.

Also, slept 12-14 hours. I still take long naps. Tiredness will affect my memory so I watch that carefully.

Be curious. We’re here to share.
Hugs,
R

Hi Robin: I was diagnosed with a 3mm middle cerebral artery annie at the juncture where it splits off from the circle of willis from what little I was told and understand. I had to request the records to find any of this out as my dr just said I’m ok. The report showed it has a wide neck but that’s as much as I know. I have to be checked again at 6mos (june/july). I’m not supposed to worry about it because the risk of surgery is greater than the risk of rupture they told me. My follow up appt was about 5 minutes with the neurosurgeon so I didn’t get much and didn’t know enough to ask anything. I guess I just want to know more and talk to some people who have had annie’s on the same artery. They said mine is so small it’s nothing to worry about. How big was your annie? I’m sorry you’re having such a difficult time recovering. I am grateful I didn’t have surgery but at the same time I know mine is still there and ? what may happen if anything ever. I’m impressed with your positive attitude, I believe if a person can get there, it’s the best way to deal with all this. Best wishes to you.

Hi Mitch, your comment about a positive attitude makes me smile. I try. If I let this get to me, then I am down and, frankly, I have things to do. Once, when all this began, I was scared. My surgeon was very demonstrative and forthcoming with information, but that didn't exactly help my concerns. It's still my body and anything that does happen, happens to me. So there is always that element of concern. It's like being sad over someone's death. Hard at first; easier as the months pass. I used to give my doc indigestion because the situation was quite dire and I'd ask for a day to think all the information over. Made him crazy! He's a doc and he makes quick decisions for a living. I, on the other hand, do better when I pause and get back to ya. We actually talked about that and, once he understood, he was okay with it.

I have 5 annies. They were handled in three surgeries--two endovascular coilings and a craniotomy. The largest one was 8mm on the middle cerebral also, but before the split. It had a small neck and so they tried coiling, but the follow-up angio showed blood was still getting into it and forming clots. If I wanted to live, I really didn't have a choice other than the craniotomy.

My surgeon is one of the two docs in North America who research annies. (Ironic luck, huh?) He said to be successfully coiled they cannot have a neck wider than 2mm. Wider than that means the coils will not stay inside the bulge. Trust me, you do not want those coils to come out! He also said the annies have personalities. Some grow quickly. Some just hang out for awhile. This he did emphasize: (I don't mean to scare you, just help you apply some logic and, hopefully, become more comfortable and then decide you can handle it.) What they do know is that annies will grow and that they will eventually burst. I believe, but can't remember exactly, that researchers have been able to calculate a percentage growth rate and they know where the size of concern begins. (There's a question for you to ask.) In the meantime, you must check on them as the docs recommend. Okay? Got that?

Oh, one more piece of info. My surgeon practices at UTSouthwestern Medical School in Dallas. The neurosurgical department has set a policy to treat at 4 mm. For instance, Canada treats at 8 mm. So, different areas and hospitals have different policies as to when to treat. That is something you could ask, too.

Sounds like you do better with more info. Me too. In fact, I said that to the surgeon and he lit up like a pinball machine; dished out so much info that I wished we'd had a recorder! So, my suggestion would be to tell your doc you need more info and ask for better explanations.

Just love when the docs tell you not to worry. Ugh! They mean well but who could reasonably walk away from that meeting unconcerned? Just receiving the news that you have an annie takes your breath away. But, remember, you have one of the best tools--a curiousness that will find answers. Keep it up.

I'm so glad you asked your questions!

Thank you so much Robin. Very helpful info. I am better informed for my next meeting with him, will have a list of questions.

You're right, in time it gets better. I just got word today my mom has cancer so my little annie doesn't seem near so important. We definitely have other things to worry about and spend our time thinking about. I've always done better taking the emphasis off my problems and focusing on others. I hope we can get her back up and strong again. She has much to do as she says.

Thanks again,

Mitch

Mitch, sorry to hear about your mother. I pray she is in good hands with her doctors. Something like that does take the emphasis of you. Funny, though. Once again we are parallel. One month after my craniotomy, before I was allowed to drive, my husband was diagnosed with tonsil cancer and underwent multiple surgeries. Heaven is good friends on earth because I could not have done it without them. He's fine today. This is journey with many lessons for you.

Hugs,

Robin

Thank god your husband is OK. Mine went through malignant melanoma and won so I understand. A friend of mine said (after my annie diagnosis) a quote from his father: "son, none of us is getting out of here alive". I will never forget that. We could get hit by a mack truck tomorrow. At least we know about our annie's. Thank you again for your insight. I'm wondering if your Dr has published anything? I'd be interested in reading it. My surgeon said they don't treat ANY annie's until at least 7mm and mine is so small, will likely never be anything to worry about. I guess that's supposed to make me feel better... but it doesn't.

Anyway, as I said, my issues are nothing compared to what my mom is now facing. You just never know.

Mitch

Hey Mitch...life is good, right? I don't mind a good fight for quality, either. My surgeon is also a researcher so I'll bet he has published. He's Babu G. Welch (Yes, Babu, no mistyping) at University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center. I'm sending that info to you before I've looked to see what he might have published. You see, I was in his office on Monday and in surgery Thursday so I didn't have much chance to dig around. Let's look! Now I'm curious.

Hi Sandra, I am also from Sydney, Australia and have recently been diagnosed with a 5mm right internal carotid artery aneurysm. Like you, it was an incidental finding when I was having investigations done for my headaches, but now I am faced with having it surgically clipped as coiling is not an option, and I have been advised by two neurosurgeons that I should have it treated. I was wondering which surgeon you used at the Royal North Shore Hospital and would you recommend him or her? How are you doing now? Have your issues with balance, headaches and memory resolved?

Best wishes

Wendy

Hello Wendy, sorry to hear of yr diagnosis. My neurosurgeon is Dr Rodney Allan he is located at RPA Hospital Medical Centre, Missendon Road, Newtown. He is young & extremely good. I was operated on at North Shore Private hospital next door to the public Hospital. I am cut from ear to ear with no hair shaved my anni was right in the middle of the 2 lobes of the brain right on top of my head. You may have seen Dr Allen on RPA medical show on TV at sometime.I still have memory problems and balance but all is good I go about my normal life but do panic slightly when I get a bad headache these days but I am sure that panic will pass in time. Don’t get many headaches these days. I live in the Camden region in Sydney - where do you live? Please keep in touch. All the best Sandra

Sandra----I didn't have a craniotomy, but had the coilings as I had a 5x7x6 ruptured annie in Sept,2010. As of now I still experiencing daily headaches, short term memory lost & imbalance. I believe the balance is getting better, but am still walking with a cane. On the side where I had the annie, my ear rings constantly. I did however, start working again for a few hrs each day. When I push myself I can really feel it. Still have no appetite & have alittle trouble swallowing.

I try to take one day @ a time, & try not to get to depressed. Some days are better than others. Still need lots of rest. Hopefully, we will all get better with time, but boy is it ever hard to except, right? Take care & you are in my thoughts & prayers.

Aggie

Hello Aggie, Nice to hear from you. My annie wasn’t ruptured thank goodness. It certainly is a long process to recovery I believe and it is very individual of course. My balance is still not 100% nor is my memory. You are absolutely right one day at a time has your new motto. Rest is so important - I did not go back to work at all. 17 months on I still need a sleep in the arvo and if I don’t rest I seem to “hit a wall” so to speak & my body makes me rest as I cannot go on for that day. The brain apparently takes a long time to recover BUT I believe once anything in life is tampered with it never is 100% again. I am still on anti depressant tablets at this stage & we are off to Europe next week so I hope all goes well and I will try to come off the anti depressants upon my return. I wish you well with your recovery and remember do not push yourself too hard and rest rest rest is my advice - it is hard for people to understand sometimes as you look well but the lethargy is just overwhelming - so listen to you body. Take care & keep in touch. Best wishes Sandra

Hi Sandra, thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I had a feeling it might have been Rodney Allan as I knew that he operated at RPA and RNSH. I actually have an appointment with him on the 15th of August. I have previously seen Professor Michael Morgan at Macquarie Uni hospital and Dr Richard Parkinson at St Vincents and decided to get a third opinion before going ahead with the surgery. I heard that Rodney Allan was well respected, specialised in aneurysms, and didn't always have to shave your head (which would be nice). I have been told that the cut will have to be from the middle of my head, just behind the hair line, down to my ear on the right side. Fortunately access to the aneurysm is reasonably good. I have been suffering with 24/7 headaches for nearly 2 years (unrelated) so am a bit worried about post surgery. Prof Morgan did however mention that sometimes entering the brain can stop headaches either permanently or temporarily, so that could potentially be a beneficial side effect.

I glad to hear that you have been able to get back to your normal life with a only a few issues. Hopefully they will improve further as time goes on. I will let you know how I go with Dr Allan. Luckily I live very close by in Paddington (eastern suburbs) so I am close to most of the major hospitals.

Best wishes

Wendy

Hi Wendy

I had my grade 4 Anni 4 years ago which was clipped by Dr Jonathan Curtis at RNS Sydney. As far as I am concerned he saved my life. Apart from balance issues, life is pretty good. I'm working full time, driving and I don't get headaches any more that I did for the last 40 years.